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I think "dim" was on there for when and if you made the great mistake of letting a non woodyboater DRIVE...they are all sort of Dim, so maybe they had their own spot on the ignition switch...when you put it on dim maybe it wouldn't start! I wish I had had that switch at times myself!!!! lol....
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Clum switch "Dim"
I believe the "Dim" was from when it was used in an automobile, that's how you would dim your lights. When it is used in a boat "Dim" is for stern pole or "Anchor" light only. The other is for full navigation lights bow and stern including the dash panel. I have the identical clum switch on a 1936 CC.
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I believe runabout36 is correct,the clum switch used in a Century panel actually said Anchor, Off and On. So I have always wired them were only the aft white light came on in the dim position. You don't have another one of these laying around do you, I am in need.
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Talked to a couple of restorers. I stand corrected.. the consensus is that on the pre wars, the dim side was for the instrument panel lights and the other side added the running lights. Maritime, what do you think?
Al schinnerer's reproduction clum is slightly different from the original and requires a somewhat different wiring arrangement, i am told.
Al schinnerer's reproduction clum is slightly different from the original and requires a somewhat different wiring arrangement, i am told.
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The clum switch evolved a little prior to its abandonment by cc, at least as to the 17 deluxe around dec. 38. So I am not sure we can generalize? Not sure what the back of the earlier ones looked like.See some clum discussion in "pre war dashboard and gauge panel" under research related.this issue was not really addressed there but there are some pictures.
1938 Chris Craft 17' Deluxe Runabout "Jennifer II"
I might also mention that this is consistent with what cc did after they eliminated the clum switch on the 17' model in early 39. they then used separate gauge and running light switches. (see pre -war dash buzz site).
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Based on memory the Dim setting is wired to send power to the stern pole light and the dash lights thus, On Is for everything on. I have a unrestored 1936 18 foot runabout in the barn and will check it out to test my theory.
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You know after some thought and asking around again DonJ is right. The dim should be light for the dash panel only. There is no reason for the aft white light to be lite by it self (anchor light)on a runabout. This would only be true in a cruiser back then. This is the way the 1931 20' triple that I restored was and also the way that I am going to wire the 2 28' boats. It makes sense to me.
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1936 25' Gar Wood Custom
1947 Ventnor Hydroplane
1957 17' Deluxe Runabout
1948 25' Chris Craft Sportsman Twin
1959 19' Sliver Arrow Hull #75
1929 26' Chris Craft Custom Runabout
1937 25' Chris Craft Custom Runabout
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1936 25' Gar Wood Custom
1947 Ventnor Hydroplane
1957 17' Deluxe Runabout
1948 25' Chris Craft Sportsman Twin
1959 19' Sliver Arrow Hull #75
1929 26' Chris Craft Custom Runabout
1937 25' Chris Craft Custom Runabout
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The 18 footer was no help on determining what is on in the DIM position, but I remember why I wired it up so the stern light came on with the dash lights. When floating om Lake Lucerne on hot summer nights with the engine off we needed the light from the stern pole to find another beer and the dash lights for ambience . I call this the northern wisconsin connection.
Could use a little help wiring Clum Switch.
8 Contacts on back of Clum:
DIM – Anchor and Dash Light
HEAD
COIL – From Positive side of Coil
MAGA
GRD
REAR
BAT
HORN
Presuming I have correct that the anchor and dash light go to the DIM, and coil goes to COIL, for a positive ground system, what do I connect the negative side of the Ammeter to on the Clum Switch?
8 Contacts on back of Clum:
DIM – Anchor and Dash Light
HEAD
COIL – From Positive side of Coil
MAGA
GRD
REAR
BAT
HORN
Presuming I have correct that the anchor and dash light go to the DIM, and coil goes to COIL, for a positive ground system, what do I connect the negative side of the Ammeter to on the Clum Switch?
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1929 Gar Wood 28-30
1929 Gar Wood 28-30
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I just rewired a 1936 22 foot custom , the dash light were wired with the bow light , rear was stern. I stand corrected steve
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This information is from the Chris Craft Care and Operation manual first edition Copyrighted 1929
Page 10.
"then turn the dash light switch on, and see that your bow and stern lights both work. Observe that by turning the handle of the switch one way both the bow and stern lamps light; while by turning the switch the other way the stern lamp will light only. This is done, so when lying at anchor at night, your battery will not run down. The law requires that only a white light be shown, which is visible from all points of the compass."
This manual covers all 18 models that were produced that year. Only one (model 16)was the 38' cruiser.
The 38' was noted only once as were to place timbers for storage. The rest of the manual is for runabouts.
This is the way I will be wiring my 1928. I will have the dash lights on when the bow and stern light are on.
Page 10.
"then turn the dash light switch on, and see that your bow and stern lights both work. Observe that by turning the handle of the switch one way both the bow and stern lamps light; while by turning the switch the other way the stern lamp will light only. This is done, so when lying at anchor at night, your battery will not run down. The law requires that only a white light be shown, which is visible from all points of the compass."
This manual covers all 18 models that were produced that year. Only one (model 16)was the 38' cruiser.
The 38' was noted only once as were to place timbers for storage. The rest of the manual is for runabouts.
This is the way I will be wiring my 1928. I will have the dash lights on when the bow and stern light are on.
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Lets not forget about the horn. I tested all the positions on the back of my CLUM Switch (1929 CADET). It is pretty interesting. The hardest part is that all the wiring has to go back through the Ammeter to properly show the current draw. The switch is quite a hand full of wires when complete. The Horn is always hot. And yes, the DIM position is for the Anchor Light.
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