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zapping condensers
My '58 Sportsman w/K motor is eating condensers--get fire in and out of coil, points firing, no fire to plugs--replaced EVERYTHING-- enjoyed a blissful morning run on glassy Lake Greenwood, went to load onto trailer, wouldn't crank! Got home, same scenario, good fire everywhere except to plugs. Chatted w/old friend who's worked on every engine known to exist--said condenser's bad--replaced condenser, fired right up! Another fabulous morning on Lake Murray, same thing AGAIN, had to go swimming to load boat--any ideas?
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Re: zapping condensers
yep, I have an idea: the trash quality foreign condensers on the market today. I don't have a solution...perhaps someone can recommend a reliable brand/manufacturer?
John in Va.
John in Va.
1980 Fairchild Scout 30
19?? custom Argentine Runabout 16'
1954 Whirlwind deluxe dual ckpt 16'
1921 Old Town Charles River 17' (founding Captain, James River Batteau Festival)
19?? custom Argentine Runabout 16'
1954 Whirlwind deluxe dual ckpt 16'
1921 Old Town Charles River 17' (founding Captain, James River Batteau Festival)
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Re: zapping condensers
Would be interesting to learn what happens when you try another brand of condenser. Please advise. Also, please indicate sources of condensers if the manufacturer is the problem; I have a 'K' engine also. Thanks
Re: zapping condensers
There is a known issue with imported condensers.
Jim Staib
www.finewoodboats.com
1947 Penn Yan 12' Cartopper WXH474611
1950 Chris-Craft 22' Sportsman U-22-1532
1957 Chris-Craft 26' Sea Skiff SK-26-515
1968 Century 17' Resorter FG-68-174
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1947 Penn Yan 12' Cartopper WXH474611
1950 Chris-Craft 22' Sportsman U-22-1532
1957 Chris-Craft 26' Sea Skiff SK-26-515
1968 Century 17' Resorter FG-68-174
Re: zapping condensers
Thanks Jim, I'll look for the "Made in USA" part next time!!
Re: zapping condensers
ASK for it Expect to pay 50% more. You'll save that much in aspirin.
Jim Staib
www.finewoodboats.com
1947 Penn Yan 12' Cartopper WXH474611
1950 Chris-Craft 22' Sportsman U-22-1532
1957 Chris-Craft 26' Sea Skiff SK-26-515
1968 Century 17' Resorter FG-68-174
www.finewoodboats.com
1947 Penn Yan 12' Cartopper WXH474611
1950 Chris-Craft 22' Sportsman U-22-1532
1957 Chris-Craft 26' Sea Skiff SK-26-515
1968 Century 17' Resorter FG-68-174
Re: zapping condensers
While you're at the supply store buy a couple of spares! Easy enough to change should you have another on-the-water failure!
1966 Lyman Cruisette 25 foot "Serenity Now!"
1953 Chris Craft Sportsman 22 foot "Summerwind"
1953 Chris Craft Sportsman 22 foot "Summerwind"
Re: zapping condensers
I had a similar experience some years ago. Without telling a long tale the problem turned out to be the contact between the condenser body (ground) and actual ground. I sanded the breaker plate area under the condenser mount to bright metal and the connection between the breaker plate and the distributor body. My problems went away. I have found that tend to have moisture accumulate undet the distributor cap. My engines are 327Fs with Prestolite distributors
Jim Evans
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Good point by Jim as above. I have had that happen too.
John in Va.
John in Va.
1980 Fairchild Scout 30
19?? custom Argentine Runabout 16'
1954 Whirlwind deluxe dual ckpt 16'
1921 Old Town Charles River 17' (founding Captain, James River Batteau Festival)
19?? custom Argentine Runabout 16'
1954 Whirlwind deluxe dual ckpt 16'
1921 Old Town Charles River 17' (founding Captain, James River Batteau Festival)
Re: zapping condensers
Thanks, Jim, I'll check into that as well!!
Re: zapping condensers
Had the same trouble with condensers a couple of years ago with my W's. Also had a set of points spring break.
My solution was to change to Pertronix ignition that I purchased from Fine Wood Boats.
Good Luck!
My solution was to change to Pertronix ignition that I purchased from Fine Wood Boats.
Good Luck!
Troy in ANE - Former President CCABC
1957 CC 21' Continental "Yorktown" (Mom's boat)
https://www.chris-craft.org/boats/22625/
1985 Formula 242LS "Gottago"
1991 Formula 36PC "Band Aids"
Life Is Too Short To Own An Ugly Boat
1957 CC 21' Continental "Yorktown" (Mom's boat)
https://www.chris-craft.org/boats/22625/
1985 Formula 242LS "Gottago"
1991 Formula 36PC "Band Aids"
Life Is Too Short To Own An Ugly Boat
Re: zapping condensers
Are you sure you have the right condenser for your distributor? They are not a one size fits all and most parts places are not going to have a listing for yours.
Re: zapping condensers
IAY-4009 distributor for 95 hp K motor--NAPA has 'em listed under a Sierra number
Re: zapping condensers
I would be very cautious with that NAPA. See the current Sierra catalog. They don't offer condensers for your application. Also Sierra reboxes other parts, they generally don't make anything.
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Jim Staib
www.finewoodboats.com
1947 Penn Yan 12' Cartopper WXH474611
1950 Chris-Craft 22' Sportsman U-22-1532
1957 Chris-Craft 26' Sea Skiff SK-26-515
1968 Century 17' Resorter FG-68-174
www.finewoodboats.com
1947 Penn Yan 12' Cartopper WXH474611
1950 Chris-Craft 22' Sportsman U-22-1532
1957 Chris-Craft 26' Sea Skiff SK-26-515
1968 Century 17' Resorter FG-68-174
Re: zapping condensers
Sierra is junk. They rebox the cheapest parts they can find.
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You know in all my years of working on boats, I never considered this "reboxing" of parts scam? Those aftermarket guys must be shady characters to do that stuff. How prevalent do we think that is?
John in Va
John in Va
1980 Fairchild Scout 30
19?? custom Argentine Runabout 16'
1954 Whirlwind deluxe dual ckpt 16'
1921 Old Town Charles River 17' (founding Captain, James River Batteau Festival)
19?? custom Argentine Runabout 16'
1954 Whirlwind deluxe dual ckpt 16'
1921 Old Town Charles River 17' (founding Captain, James River Batteau Festival)
Re: zapping condensers
Finally solved the problem!!! there's an insulating tube between distributor housing and the bolt that holds the points and provides power--had a hole in it shorting to the distributor housing!! Knocked the metal out of a 10-12 ga StaKon butt connector, cut to fit, took a 4 hour ride last Sunday!!! Thanks for all the come-backs, guys!!
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GREAT fix!
That would be a hard one to find.
That would be a hard one to find.
Troy in ANE - Former President CCABC
1957 CC 21' Continental "Yorktown" (Mom's boat)
https://www.chris-craft.org/boats/22625/
1985 Formula 242LS "Gottago"
1991 Formula 36PC "Band Aids"
Life Is Too Short To Own An Ugly Boat
1957 CC 21' Continental "Yorktown" (Mom's boat)
https://www.chris-craft.org/boats/22625/
1985 Formula 242LS "Gottago"
1991 Formula 36PC "Band Aids"
Life Is Too Short To Own An Ugly Boat
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Re: zapping condensers
wow....I have to admit I knew of that potential problem....but being old and stupid...I forgot it.
John in Va.
John in Va.
1980 Fairchild Scout 30
19?? custom Argentine Runabout 16'
1954 Whirlwind deluxe dual ckpt 16'
1921 Old Town Charles River 17' (founding Captain, James River Batteau Festival)
19?? custom Argentine Runabout 16'
1954 Whirlwind deluxe dual ckpt 16'
1921 Old Town Charles River 17' (founding Captain, James River Batteau Festival)
Re: zapping condensers
That was my original problem--old and stupid!!
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