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Post by Ken Miller » Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:23 pm

I came across a photo album, which was sold to me as once belonging to Pat Curtin (boat supervisor for On Golden Pond, among other films), and bought it. Turns out it actually belonged to Jim Hendricks. I thought some of the readers of the forum might like to see some of the photos, etc. in the album. I loved wooden boats long before the film, but was stricken by the U-22 layout and its sleek and beautiful lines. Now my wife and I own one and it does provide our family with much satisfaction. Here's some of what was in the album, ENJOY:


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Post by Wilson Wright » Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:33 am

Anybody followed up on Thatyer IV lately? Last I heard Hendrick's wife and daughter sold her to a club member in Minnesota who was going to restore and campaign her.
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Post by Matt Smith » Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:17 am

There is a guy here in Reedville VA that clams to now have her. Belonged to the See's Family of See's candy. Its sitting at a local boat yard under cover.
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Post by Wilson Wright » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:14 am

May depend on which boat you or they are talking about...There were three...One for the surface shots and one for the crash scene that Hendricks bought. The latter is still at the Holiday Inn in Key Largo with the hole in her bow. I've heard no more on the other after she went to Minnesota...I guess a call to the guy who took her there might reveal some details.

Then there was roumored to be a third boat used for the arial shots which I'd heard went to somebody in Ohio. This boat could be that one....Maybe ??? Maybe not.
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Post by Matt Smith » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:19 am

I am going to go look at it. The owner says its from the see's family of See's candy, still has the engraving on the windows. My guess is the arial shot boat. He got it in Atlanta????
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Post by Bill Basler » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:30 am

Beware Matt. I think at last count there were 147 On Golden Pond boats out there..if you know what I mean. I have heard a lot of the stories...often someone has a U22 Sportsman, that happens to be about the right vintage...that they were told was an On Golden Pond boat.

If someone has one of the three, (and as Wilson says, one was destroyed, and last I knew the one in Key Largo was getting pretty rough) then they should have some pretty solid documentation—more than just, "someone told me this was an On Golden Pond boat."

Pat Curtin, as Ken points out, was certainly there on the shoot and has been the keeper of much of this history.
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Post by Matt Smith » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:33 am

I have suspected the same, the guy that I know is a big car collector and ..yada yada... I am going to take shots of her and post.
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Post by Wilson Wright » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:49 am

Bill:

Maybe it is time to follow up on the guy in Minnesota. His name an address are in a brief ( Maybe only one paragraph) in a Brass Bell of several years back...I don't have copies here at the coast but it should show up in the archives...

How we coming in matching the Collectors Fund money ??

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Post by drrot » Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:04 am

If you look close at the photos posted that one has an extra vent right in front of the windshield. That would be a dead giveaway.

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Post by Flatd7 » Tue Dec 23, 2008 11:23 am

Speaking of the devil . . . . . Thayer IV is up for sale on eBay. The reserve hasn't been met, but it's belwo 8K right now. Wonder what it will go for.

I find it rather amusing that they claim to have ALL THE DOCUMENTATION and can't remember which Hepburn was the leading lady. Oh My?

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Post by Matt Smith » Tue Dec 23, 2008 11:40 am

It looks like the real deal.. he got it from a guy who got it from Pat Curtain. So? And yes I am the dumb dumb in this economy bidding. My fingers have a mind of there own... The thing is, its still a U22 The question is... Is there a good bottom on it. Or is it just a prop...
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Post by Wilson Wright » Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:23 pm

He didn't get it from the guy who got it from Pat Curtain because that "guy" Jim Hendricks is dead.

Jim's widow and daughter sold the boat ( I think thru Lou Rauh...but don't hold me to that) to a guy in Minnesota who was going to restore and campaign the boat...There is an article somewhere in the Brass Bell archives...

But as you say she's a U-22 but Hendricks kinda let her go to pot while he had her in the Keys.
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Post by Matt Smith » Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:33 pm

OK I have more paper work now. I have a title, sold from Francis Hendricks in Key largo. Also some more shots, and it def needs a refresh and some work. I am not sure what the extra value is, other than a novilty. It aint the red slippers from The wizard of oz... But it is very cool. And since i am looking for a U22. It at least has a great story. Restoring it would be fun, while tring to preserve its history. windshield snaps and all.
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Post by Wilson Wright » Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:45 pm

You might want to check with Lou Rauh on the title..

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Post by Matt Smith » Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:11 pm

Just spoke with Antique boat center. Lou is on vacation... Here is what Joel remembers. That there was no documentation of the boat. That there were 4 of them. And considering the pat Curtain to Hendrick story... mmmmmm. So. I suppose its like everything else in this hobby. Its art, with a fun story. The funny thing is that I am not sure if it increases the value at all. Its still a U22 that needs work. And an archivist....
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Post by Matt Smith » Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:26 pm

And to ad to the dumbness, I am bidding against a pal. We just figured that out. No more bidding! HA.
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Post by Brian Robinson » Tue Dec 23, 2008 3:37 pm

Jim Wangard did this feature in the 3/2004 Classic Boating. This is the wrecked one.
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Post by Matt Smith » Tue Dec 23, 2008 3:48 pm

So it says that he bought two. One was the wreck pictured here. Was the other one the one on eBAY...Does anyone have a Ouija board? Anyone?
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Post by Wilson Wright » Tue Dec 23, 2008 5:51 pm

The wrecked one is still in the sand box behind the holiday Inn in Key Largo. But Hendricks owned them both...and The Holiday Inn which has been sold
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Post by Ken Miller » Tue Dec 23, 2008 7:04 pm

Looks like it has the holes in the appropriate spots in the seatbacks where the hooks which held the life vests were mounted.
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Post by Matt Smith » Tue Dec 23, 2008 7:31 pm

I am assuming it may be the real one for now. It's a great story. The question is.... Whats it worth?
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Post by Wilson Wright » Tue Dec 23, 2008 9:47 pm

You could check te hull #
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Post by drrot » Tue Dec 23, 2008 9:50 pm

If you look at the photos from the first post there is an extra vent right in front of the windshield that is missing on the EBAY boat.

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Post by Wilson Wright » Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:07 pm

Jim:

I seem to recall your mentioning that before...Wonder why Pat Curtain put the extra vent there when he restored the boat for the movie ?

The boat was at the Weirs Beach, New Hampshire show right after the movie...If I can find the pics I took, I'll see if they also show the extra vent which might tell us if Curtain took the vent out after the movie.

There is a two page spread in an early Brass Bell which should be in the archives which might show other distinguishing features.

Hope all's well and Merry Christmas...

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Post by Matt Smith » Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:07 pm

Do we know the hull number of the correct boat? And yes I noticed the small vent. If you look on woodyboater, I also got the film clip that shows it both ways. Thats a key to this .. It looks like they moved it around? Not sure.
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Post by Wilson Wright » Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:03 am

Yes, The hull number should on Jim Hendricks original membership application and probably elsewhere in the Hendricks file. Also there was a miscellaneous file on which I wrote down odds and ends for easy reference on matters like this. That stuff all went to Cedar Rapids when we closed the Tallahassee office.
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Post by Matt Smith » Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:19 am

It's most likely in a block of ice right now. Bill?
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Post by Matt Smith » Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:33 am

Bill, you will be proud. I went to the archive... all by myself... And found a ton of stuff. Here is now proof that one of the boats only had one scoop. Dang. Looks like they were prepping for the Boston show.
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Post by 69gumby » Fri Dec 26, 2008 2:51 pm

The Ebay boat is up to $20,099 now with 15 bids and 6 days to go. A bunch of people thiink she is the real thing.
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Post by Matt Smith » Fri Dec 26, 2008 4:40 pm

My prediction...I am going out on a limb here. It stops at 35K. This is a tough market right now. With a orig or old bottom and a need for some bungs and a refresh. That may be all its worth. Infact it may be more than its worth.. We need someone that knows these things that is close by to take a look.
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