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WI area - wood source

Post by chris.nackers » Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:00 pm

Hey all, looking for recommendations on where people have gotten their wood from around the WI area.

I will need to pick up some wood to replace old side planks probably in the next month. Also what is the recommended mahogany?

According to Dan's book, looks like 6/4 resawn to 1/2" is appropriate.

Thanks in advance!
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Re: WI area - wood source

Post by Bilge Rat » Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:50 pm

Philippine mahogany was originally used but may be difficult to source today. In actuality, Philippine mahogany isn't a true mahogany but a member of the lauan family. You may get lucky in finding some but do not use African or Honduran as the color and grain pattern will possibly look very different than the original and will not make a good match.

A possibly more readily available wood is dark red meranti which is also a member of the lauan family. It comes from islands further south of the Philippines. From what Don has stated in his forum, L L Johnsons Workbench In Southern Michigan has been a supplier.
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Re: WI area - wood source

Post by chris.nackers » Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:53 pm

Thanks, a bunch of searching looks like LL Johnsons is the closest "big" supplier around. I called and talked to Edensaw, they were great, but getting the wood all the way back here will be very expensive.

African is readily available, but i didn't figure that would be a good match for the boat.
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Post by drrot » Tue Jan 05, 2021 4:51 pm

Did you try McCormick at Milwaukee and Bryan?
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Re: WI area - wood source

Post by chris.nackers » Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:47 am

drrot wrote:
Tue Jan 05, 2021 4:51 pm
Did you try McCormick at Milwaukee and Bryan?
I did not, thank you!
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Re: WI area - wood source

Post by Jim Godlewski » Sun Jan 10, 2021 8:37 pm

chris.nackers wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:00 pm
Hey all, looking for recommendations on where people have gotten their wood from around the WI area.

I will need to pick up some wood to replace old side planks probably in the next month. Also what is the recommended mahogany?

According to Dan's book, looks like 6/4 resawn to 1/2" is appropriate.

Thanks in advance!
This is from Don's site.
"from a Mariners' Museum copy of a 1948 spec sheet for runabouts & sportsmen:

17' deluxe side planks 7/16"
deck planks 3/8""
I would measure your bottom topside plank and match that thickness so you can easily fair the side in. Just a suggestion...
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Re: WI area - wood source

Post by chris.nackers » Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:23 am

Jim Godlewski wrote:
Sun Jan 10, 2021 8:37 pm
chris.nackers wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:00 pm
Hey all, looking for recommendations on where people have gotten their wood from around the WI area.

I will need to pick up some wood to replace old side planks probably in the next month. Also what is the recommended mahogany?

According to Dan's book, looks like 6/4 resawn to 1/2" is appropriate.

Thanks in advance!
This is from Don's site.
"from a Mariners' Museum copy of a 1948 spec sheet for runabouts & sportsmen:

17' deluxe side planks 7/16"
deck planks 3/8""
I would measure your bottom topside plank and match that thickness so you can easily fair the side in. Just a suggestion...
Thanks... so i wonder if 4/4 would work then, although not much room for error. But certainly alot more waste with 6/4.
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Re: WI area - wood source

Post by Jim Godlewski » Mon Jan 11, 2021 1:26 pm

I don't think so. Tell the lumber sales person what your doing and your finish thickness, they'll tell you what you need. I would let them resaw the boards and thickness plane myself but that's your call.
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Re: WI area - wood source

Post by Denis D » Mon Jan 11, 2021 2:14 pm

I am restoring a '48 Deluxe and it does have 7/16" Cedar planking on the bottom and 3/8" Mahogany on the topsides and deck. Conventional wisdom is that this was a result of wood shortage after WW2. The accepted standard for restoring these boats seems to be using 1/2" planks all around. The thinner wood leaves very little margin for sanding to fair and very shallow screw recesses for bungs. Some of my original topside planks are down to 3/16" thick in spots from factory fairing.

Just my 2 cents.

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Re: WI area - wood source

Post by chris.nackers » Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:11 pm

Dug in my research packet and found a scan of a the wood sizes and things.

Side planks are 1/2"
Bottom is 5/8"
Deck is 7/16"
Transom is 1/2"

At least that was original it looks like. I will still measure to see what was put on the 1st plank.
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Re: WI area - wood source

Post by maritimeclassics » Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:17 am

We have done a couple of 17' deluxe model Chris craft and always go to 1/2 inch planking. You are only talking 1/16th of an inch and it makes for a stronger boat and you don't have to worry about fairing if you frames are fair. I would go with 6/4 lumber re-sawn in half then plane to 1/2 inch thick. That is a standard way of doing things here. The only boat we didn't do that on was one of the Chris Craft race boats which were thinner frames and planking to scrub weight.
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Re: WI area - wood source

Post by chris.nackers » Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:34 am

maritimeclassics wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:17 am
We have done a couple of 17' deluxe model Chris craft and always go to 1/2 inch planking. You are only talking 1/16th of an inch and it makes for a stronger boat and you don't have to worry about fairing if you frames are fair. I would go with 6/4 lumber re-sawn in half then plane to 1/2 inch thick. That is a standard way of doing things here. The only boat we didn't do that on was one of the Chris Craft race boats which were thinner frames and planking to scrub weight.
Perfect, that was more or less my plan. Appreciate the input as always!
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Re: WI area - wood source

Post by chris.nackers » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:20 am

I guess the other thing i'm trying to figure out is how much wood and what lengths to order. In terms of what makes the most sense.

I don't think i need anything over 12 feet and all are under 7" wide except for that top strake.

I should check the drawings i got from Mariners, can't remember if the plank layout was in one of those.
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