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Mystery Riviera Light Bulb Socket

Post by Riviera Wish » Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:44 pm

Trying to identify the location and mounting information for the attached electrical / bulb fixture. The fixture came with a disassembled 1952 Riviera. I suspect, by process of elimination, that the fixture may be for the forward navigation light but can not be sure. Can someone identify the part and indicate how it is mounted?
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Re: Mystery Riviera Light Bulb Socket

Post by drrot » Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:55 pm

it is
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Re: Mystery Riviera Light Bulb Socket

Post by Riviera Wish » Wed Aug 05, 2015 11:52 am

Appreciate the confirmation.
Is it mounted by a screw to the deck plank? Or deck support plank?
I understand that there is a ventilation tube that is mounted below the navigation light. How are the wires routed?

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Re: Mystery Riviera Light Bulb Socket

Post by drrot » Wed Aug 05, 2015 5:24 pm

The light holder is screwed to the inside of the bow light. Usually to a pad in the dome.
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Re: Mystery Riviera Light Bulb Socket

Post by Riviera Wish » Thu Aug 06, 2015 12:30 pm

After carefully inspecting the bow light parts and casting, there is no place or pad where the fixture was, or could be,mounted. Is there a 'Plan B' for how this fixture was mounted ?

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Re: Mystery Riviera Light Bulb Socket

Post by Bilge Rat » Thu Aug 06, 2015 2:22 pm

A picture of the actual bow light might help as there were a few different ones that Chis Craft used, or it could be a non-original Chris Craft part. I have seen some bow lights where the light socket was screwed to the deck.
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Re: Mystery Riviera Light Bulb Socket

Post by drrot » Thu Aug 06, 2015 4:18 pm

The photo is the inside of a 220 Riv light. Right behind the bow pole lump is the pad where the light holder mounts.
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Re: Mystery Riviera Light Bulb Socket

Post by Riviera Wish » Thu Aug 06, 2015 6:47 pm

Attached are photos of the light in question. There is a 220 casting number and a 'pad' behind the flog pole socket but NO
threaded hole for mounting the bulb holder. This holder must have been mounted to the deck. Can anyone describe in detail how the deck mounting was accomplished and the wire routing around or through the forward vent duct below the light?
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Re: Mystery Riviera Light Bulb Socket

Post by drrot » Fri Aug 07, 2015 8:01 am

Clean it up and look close. Probably a broke down there.
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Re: Mystery Riviera Light Bulb Socket

Post by Riviera Wish » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:19 pm

You are correct Jim! Thanks for not giving up on my ignorance.
After scotch brite clean-up of the 'pad' it became evident that a stud was broken off in the casting. Now I need some coaching on how to extract a1/8" diameter brass stud from a brass casting. Heat? Penetrating oil? Drill and re-tap? Do they make extractors that small?
Guess I could try to 'slot' the stud along with the casting.
Still would like some guidance on the wire routing

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Re: Mystery Riviera Light Bulb Socket

Post by drrot » Fri Aug 07, 2015 1:58 pm

Take it to a machine shop. Have them drill and tap a new hole 6/32
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Re: Mystery Riviera Light Bulb Socket

Post by dreed » Fri Aug 07, 2015 6:53 pm

Did the bow light change from the 52 to 53 Riviera? That looks nothing like mine.
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Re: Mystery Riviera Light Bulb Socket

Post by Riviera Wish » Fri Aug 07, 2015 9:12 pm

Bow light came with 1952 Riviera R-18-749. Hull card signed by Anthony F. Dugan 1/31/52.

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Re: Mystery Riviera Light Bulb Socket

Post by dreed » Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:50 am

Here is the style of bow light on my 53 Riviera.
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Re: Mystery Riviera Light Bulb Socket

Post by drrot » Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:51 pm

It's not the one generally used. It's either a 901 or a 5505. 220 is the generally used light. That being said if they were out of 220 lights they would put whatever was on the next line to get the boat out.
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Re: Mystery Riviera Light Bulb Socket

Post by jim g » Sun Aug 09, 2015 6:25 am

dreed wrote:Here is the style of bow light on my 53 Riviera.
I've seen a couple of original 18' Riviera that had that bow light on it. I removed both and checked for covered up screw holes for the bow light normally used. The only holes they had were the ones that matched up to the bow light that was on the boat. The screw hole pattern is different between the two lights.

As Jim Staib said, they would use whatever they had to get the boat out of the door.

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Re: Mystery Riviera Light Bulb Socket

Post by Trick414 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:06 pm

Jim,

I'll give you a call on the next business day, but thought I'd drop a line here as well.

Do you have that mounting bracket piece as shown in the first post?

My 51 Riviera didn't have anything but the socket itself, which is broken. It was just stapled up in the hole hanging by the staple and wire.

I was going to find a new style socket and bulb, but after I found this post and saw that cool mounting bracket, I figured I'd reach out and see if you had any around.

I've got a 220 bow light.

Thanks!

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