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1962 Constellation 37'. General Help

Post by drginseng » Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:52 pm

I'm doing several repairs to a new Connie I bought. The first is the fiberglass coach roof separated at the seam while being next to a boat on fire. I'm thinking of filling the gap with 5200 and then jacking a board up against the bottom. I'm thinking about drilling and bolting it in several places and then fill the holes after removal of the bolts.

Secondly, I want to take down the headliner to rebed the rails. Has anyone came up with alternative headliner materials or finishing out the wood? Has anyone rest applied headliner material?

Lastly -for now- I have a teak decal from midship throughout the cockpit area. I'm thinking about doing something different with the bow deck. Any ideas?

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Re: 1962 Constellation 37'. General Help

Post by Doug P » Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:56 pm

How about some pictures. Someone out there has gone through the same thing. I a also need a solution for headliner.

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Re: 1962 Constellation 37'. General Help

Post by tkhersom » Wed Apr 30, 2014 5:03 am

OH BOY!

Look for a giant astroid to come hailing at the earth today. When Doug "The Answer Man" is looking for ideas it surely has to be a sign that the end of the world is coming. :shock:

I bet Peter Jardin has an idea or two. You should e-mail him.

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Re: 1962 Constellation 37'. General Help

Post by High Seas » Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:52 pm

We replaced the headliner in ours and it was a pain, luckily I have a friend with a 57' that did it already to help. Try to get the headliner with the foam insulation backing, it is easier to install and helps insulate heat and noise. Connie overhead stringers are 26" on center EXCEPT for the front one, and the one behind the aft lights, they are 28-1/2".

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Re: 1962 Constellation 37'. General Help

Post by jfrprops » Thu May 01, 2014 10:32 am

right on troy as to p! lol

Your idea for the separation repair will work pretty good...I have done similar.

as to the headliner....that is a job for the pros or you will drive yourself NUTS.....it is like sewing or facebook...real men can't do it.
Beware if/when you pull the old stuff off...there will be decades of dust up in there...a real mess.

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Re: 1962 Constellation 37'. General Help

Post by Doug P » Thu May 01, 2014 12:29 pm

I am in need of a headliner, for my Roamer hardtop, about 8x8. I was thinking of adhering vinyl to doorskins and attaching with molding
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Re: 1962 Constellation 37'. General Help

Post by drginseng » Sun May 25, 2014 2:52 am

I will add some pictures, just been very busy. Anyone ever built a bench in front of the transom on the aft deck? In regards to taking the headliner down to rebed the rails, one boat guy says to wipe a Sikaflex around the mounts and wipe excess off with a rag and thinner.

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Re: 1962 Constellation 37'. General Help

Post by joanroy » Mon May 26, 2014 5:37 am

Sikaflex is good stuff and using it to seal around the outside of a piece of hardware can work temporarily. You may get a couple of years out of it. Sounds like your trying to avoid removing the headlined to get to the fasteners. Pick your battles! There's always next year.

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Re: 1962 Constellation 37'. General Help

Post by High Seas » Sat May 31, 2014 2:16 am

Doug,

I have the headliner you need, it is insulated though.

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Re: 1962 Constellation 37'. General Help

Post by Doug P » Tue Jun 03, 2014 5:26 pm

High Seas wrote:Doug,

I have the headliner you need, it is insulated though.
Thanks Tim. I'm distressed to see the dry rot damage to your boat. :cry:

I'm going to try to laminate that vinyl to mahogany door skins and hold it up with molding. Don't know if the insulated material will work. Also' I'm tossed up with going to the Sandpoint show and or
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Post by High Seas » Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:49 am

Doug,

Don't be tossed, the 25th CCR can't be missed! I have 6 empty bunks if you need a place to stay. Reserve you spot now! Do you want the side stateroom, bunk room or the v-berth? Will you be bringing your boat?

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Re: 1962 Constellation 37'. General Help

Post by drginseng » Thu Jun 05, 2014 5:54 am

High Seas wrote:Doug,

Don't be tossed, the 25th CCR can't be missed! I have 6 empty bunks if you need a place to stay. Reserve you spot now! Do you want the side stateroom, bunk room or the v-berth? Will you be bringing your boat?

Tim
When is the 25th CCR?

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Re: 1962 Constellation 37'. General Help

Post by High Seas » Fri Jun 06, 2014 11:39 pm

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Re: 1962 Constellation 37'. General Help

Post by evansjw44 » Sat Jun 07, 2014 8:08 am

On my Corinthian Sea Skiff the hand rail fasteners are accesssable as the go through the headliner. The are chromed and have a nice chrome trim ring. If you don't want to replace the headliner you could cut an "X" over the screw head and the hide the cut using a plated screw and a trim washer.
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Re: 1962 Constellation 37'. General Help

Post by Doug P » Sat Jun 07, 2014 8:23 am

evansjw44 wrote:On my Corinthian Sea Skiff the hand rail fasteners are accesssable as the go through the headliner. The are chromed and have a nice chrome trim ring. If you don't want to replace the headliner you could cut an "X" over the screw head and the hide the cut using a plated screw and a trim washer.
Jim,
I had to remove everything as the edges to my top allowed fresh water to drip and curl under the lip and rotted the front and rear eyebrow's. I lifted the fiberglass top and it was resined all along the ribs....a real mess.
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Re: 1962 Constellation 37'. General Help

Post by High Seas » Wed Jun 11, 2014 1:17 am

:D :D :D Where is the boat? You do realize that there is an ACBS chapter here in Seattle to help you? We have had meetings and work parties on my boat to give ideas out and get work done! We can do the same for your boat... :D

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Re: 1962 Constellation 37'. General Help

Post by drginseng » Wed Jun 11, 2014 4:12 am

evansjw44 wrote:On my Corinthian Sea Skiff the hand rail fasteners are accesssable as the go through the headliner. The are chromed and have a nice chrome trim ring. If you don't want to replace the headliner you could cut an "X" over the screw head and the hide the cut using a plated screw and a trim washer.
That may work. I'll check out where they come through.

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Re: 1962 Constellation 37'. General Help

Post by drginseng » Wed Jun 11, 2014 4:15 am

High Seas wrote::D :D :D Where is the boat? You do realize that there is an ACBS chapter here in Seattle to help you? We have had meetings and work parties on my boat to give ideas out and get work done! We can do the same for your boat... :D
Thanks, but I'm on Bethel Island in the SF Bay Area. Place like Tahoe and Washington are the real hot spots on the West Coast. Both there and in the a East CC is like a religion, here not so much.

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Re: 1962 Constellation 37'. General Help

Post by tkhersom » Wed Jun 11, 2014 9:56 pm

drginseng wrote:
High Seas wrote::D :D :D Where is the boat? You do realize that there is an ACBS chapter here in Seattle to help you? We have had meetings and work parties on my boat to give ideas out and get work done! We can do the same for your boat... :D
Thanks, but I'm on Bethel Island in the SF Bay Area. Place like Tahoe and Washington are the real hot spots on the West Coast. Both there and in the a East CC is like a religion, here not so much.
Maybe it's just a CULT? :D
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Re: 1962 Constellation 37'. General Help

Post by High Seas » Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:44 pm

drginseng wrote:
High Seas wrote::D :D :D Where is the boat? You do realize that there is an ACBS chapter here in Seattle to help you? We have had meetings and work parties on my boat to give ideas out and get work done! We can do the same for your boat... :D
Thanks, but I'm on Bethel Island in the SF Bay Area. Place like Tahoe and Washington are the real hot spots on the West Coast. Both there and in the a East CC is like a religion, here not so much.
You do have a local chapter, check the ACBS annual for contact info or on the website: ACBS.org

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Re: 1962 Constellation 37'. General Help

Post by Peter M Jardine » Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:25 pm

Headliner isn't that tough..... but you need a couple of specific tools..... first you need a air driven staple gun, one that you can get stainless or monel staples for.... Surbonder make a nice little staple gun that takes T50 staples, which are available in stainless. Second, you need a second person, to help hold and stretch the headliner. A panel at a time, and take your time.

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Re: 1962 Constellation 37'. General Help

Post by Doug P » Sat Jul 12, 2014 11:34 pm

Peter M Jardine wrote:Headliner isn't that tough..... but you need a couple of specific tools..... first you need a air driven staple gun, one that you can get stainless or monel staples for.... Surbonder make a nice little staple gun that takes T50 staples, which are available in stainless. Second, you need a second person, to help hold and stretch the headliner. A panel at a time, and take your time.
Are you available?

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Re: 1962 Constellation 37'. General Help

Post by Peter M Jardine » Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:43 am

Probably the best I can do is a photo tutorial on my main cabin. The boat got pushed aside this spring.... I needed a break, plus I had work to do on the house.... the maintenance staff is gettin a little slower. I will be putting in my headliner shortly.

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Re: 1962 Constellation 37'. General Help

Post by Doug P » Sun Jul 13, 2014 3:00 pm

Peter M Jardine wrote:Probably the best I can do is a photo tutorial on my main cabin. The boat got pushed aside this spring.... I needed a break, plus I had work to do on the house.... the maintenance staff is gettin a little slower. I will be putting in my headliner shortly.

OK...I can wait....110 degrees here in the shade, So damn hot that I didn't need to turn the gas on last night in order to BBQ.

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Re: 1962 Constellation 37'. General Help

Post by Doug P » Sun Jul 13, 2014 3:05 pm

The Surebonder is only $25 at Amazon

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Re: 1962 Constellation 37'. General Help

Post by tkhersom » Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:36 pm

Welcome Back Peter! :D

You have been missed.
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Re: 1962 Constellation 37'. General Help

Post by Peter M Jardine » Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:42 pm

Hey Troy.... good to see you. How is the boat coming?

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Re: 1962 Constellation 37'. General Help

Post by tkhersom » Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:48 pm

I will make a posting on my thread.
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Re: 1962 Constellation 37'. General Help

Post by jahearne » Wed Apr 27, 2016 8:16 pm

drginseng wrote:
High Seas wrote::D :D :D Where is the boat? You do realize that there is an ACBS chapter here in Seattle to help you? We have had meetings and work parties on my boat to give ideas out and get work done! We can do the same for your boat... :D
Thanks, but I'm on Bethel Island in the SF Bay Area. Place like Tahoe and Washington are the real hot spots on the West Coast. Both there and in the a East CC is like a religion, here not so much.
Bethel Island is a small drinking community with a boating problem. They say it will never sink because of the boats attached to it!
John & Wendy

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