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1940 19' Chris-Craft Custom: Orange Deck Seams

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Re: 1940 19' Chris-Craft Custom: Orange Deck Seams

Post by Matt Smith » Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:18 am

Not to be picky, but what the hell. In that stunning boat Mike showed, the seams seem a little fat. The correct width of the seams is important as well. For many reasons they are widened over time. But if you are going to do this in a restoration, the seams are very thin. I think???? 1/16 thick. I guess my point is. If you are gonna go as far as making sure the boat is 100% correct by using orange seam material. Might as well go all the way!
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Re: 1940 19' Chris-Craft Custom: Orange Deck Seams

Post by maritimeclassics » Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:27 am

Well way to be picky. This boat sank at the dock in Canada a few years back, you may remember that event. When Dave Jerome went through the boat it was discussed that the deck be replaced. The owner at the time decided not to do it because they were all the original planking and you could still see all of the factory writing underneath. The decks have been refinished I think 2 times that I remember so this boat is not 100%. It did score well at the Tahoe concourse show after it was finished but there was a deduction for wide deck seams.
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Re: 1940 19' Chris-Craft Custom: Orange Deck Seams

Post by Matt Smith » Mon Dec 17, 2018 9:26 am

Ohhhh that’s Harrison’s boat! We did a story on that one
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Re: 1940 19' Chris-Craft Custom: Orange Deck Seams

Post by SportNWood » Mon Dec 17, 2018 4:02 pm

Am I to understand from the previous post that there is an orange deck seam 19' 1940 Custom at the bottom a a lake in Canada that might be available for purchase? I'm hoping that the wood is preserved due the the lack of oxygen and due to the cold temperatures(similar to "Ice Man" and HMS Mary Rose)
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Let me know what lake!
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Re: 1940 19' Chris-Craft Custom: Orange Deck Seams

Post by Don Vogt » Mon Dec 17, 2018 4:13 pm

no i dont think so. I think matt was referring to paul harrison's 1940 Satin Doll, originally restored for Dick Werner. I am not sure if that one needed more work. only in the water overnight i guess. It had been originally restored with white deck seams, if i recall correctly, so not sure if there was deck work after retrieval, and if so whether it was made orange or not?
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Re: 1940 19' Chris-Craft Custom: Orange Deck Seams

Post by maritimeclassics » Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:42 am

The boat above was the boat that sunk and was only down for about 12 hours and then removed from the lake. It was then shipped to Dave Jerome's shop in Portland OR where it was restored for the second time. Dave restored it the first time for Dick Werner and then it was sold to Paul and Karen Harrison.
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Re: 1940 19' Chris-Craft Custom: Orange Deck Seams

Post by Matt Smith » Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:24 am

It sank because the bilge didn't work after a massive rain storm. That's what I recall, not a boat issue and was restored in a wonderful way. The Harrison's don't cut corners any were. So, sorry no orange seamed boat sitting in a lake. Although, I bet someplace that may be the case. Ya never know. By the way, for those that may think a sunk boat is a problem. Thats not the case if its been restored correctly. Not like a flooded car. Not for a thread here.
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Re: 1940 19' Chris-Craft Custom: Orange Deck Seams

Post by SportNWood » Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:13 am

Matt,

I was hoping we could mount an expedition to "Raise Satin Doll" which could be a great series on Woody Boater!
I actually received a very nice note from Paul Harrison about Satin Doll, which now resides in Michigan and was renamed "Noah's Ark" Mike from Maritime Classics cares for the boat for it's current owners!
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Re: 1940 19' Chris-Craft Custom: Orange Deck Seams

Post by Don Vogt » Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:40 am

that would have been a fun project. so i guess when it was "restored" the second time they did the deck seams orange and changed the upholstery from red to pigskin?
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Re: 1940 19' Chris-Craft Custom: Orange Deck Seams

Post by maritimeclassics » Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:44 am

Here is the boat from the 2008 International Show. Paul and Karen bought the boat I believe in 2008 after Dave restored the boat a few years before that which would have been the second time for Dick Werner and that is when it received the orange deck strips.
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Re: 1940 19' Chris-Craft Custom: Orange Deck Seams

Post by maritimeclassics » Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:27 am

Don Vogt here is a couple of pictures of your boat at the same show in 2008. I judged the boat and was very impressed so I took a few pictures.
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Restoration Projects:
1936 25' Gar Wood Custom
1947 Ventnor Hydroplane
1957 17' Deluxe Runabout
1948 25' Chris Craft Sportsman Twin
1959 19' Sliver Arrow Hull #75
1929 26' Chris Craft Custom Runabout
1937 25' Chris Craft Custom Runabout

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Re: 1940 19' Chris-Craft Custom: Orange Deck Seams

Post by Don Vogt » Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:46 pm

thanks, Mike, that was a fun int'l acbs show at coeur d alene. I havent seen those pictures before, thanks. i was pleased with my award but really the credit goes to nw classic boats who did the work, along with jim mcneilly on the engine. SportNWood couldnt do better than to have you or dave lobb restore a custom for him.

There is this funny story about satin doll when dick werner owned it. i am sure you know it. When it was first restored he took it to tahoe. one of the "know it all" judges (we have all run into them), said he didnt think the cushions were stuffed with kapok. Dick said they were but the guy didnt seem to believe him. so Dick pulled out a pocket knife and slit into the underside of the cushion and said "see". He made his point.
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Re: 1940 19' Chris-Craft Custom: Orange Deck Seams

Post by maritimeclassics » Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:21 am

Dick then kicked the judges shoes into the water. He was not happy, but it was fun to watch.
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Re: 1940 19' Chris-Craft Custom: Orange Deck Seams

Post by Don Vogt » Thu Dec 20, 2018 11:15 am

hadn't heard that part of the story. I can relate to that.
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Re: 1940 19' Chris-Craft Custom: Orange Deck Seams

Post by SportNWood » Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:56 pm

Good afternoon All,

Thank you for all of the great information and help in my search for the very best available, 1940 19' Chris-Craft Custom Runabout (with orange deck seams).

I have found and purchased the boat I have been looking for.

The boat is Amazing and so are the folks who participated in making this happen!

I would like to thank:

Andy Hoffman (Antiqueboats.com)
Mike Green (Maritime Classics)
Don Hardy (McCall Boatworks)
Gary Lyons
Herb Hall (Sierra Boat Co.)
George Harrison
Matt Smith (Woody Boater)
Kyle Barton (Barton Boatworks
And everyone with whom I spoke with during my search.

The boat is in Traverse City, MI having the new registration numbers and new name added and a few finishing details at Maritime Classics.

We look forward to seeing you all at the Sunnyland show!

Thank you all for the great input.

Niel
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