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CPES/Total Boat

Post by tuobanur » Sun Feb 01, 2015 12:02 pm

I buy a lot of my boat building supplies from Jamestown Distributors and recently noticed that they no longer sell CPES but instead are selling there Total Boat Penetrating Epoxy (TBPE). My question is has anyone here had any experience with the TBPE, as good, not as good, etc.?
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Re: CPES/Total Boat

Post by RRGadow » Sun Feb 01, 2015 12:21 pm

I haven't, but would be willing to bet its just as good if its not just relabeled. Jamestown has there stuff together.
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Re: CPES/Total Boat

Post by Denis D » Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:41 pm

According to a recent thread on Don Danenberg's forum, it is not the same thing at all and should not be used as a substitute. Smiths has apparently pulled it's products from Jamestown because of it. Here is the link:

http://eveforum.danenbergboatworks.com/ ... 1820244373

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Re: CPES/Total Boat

Post by boat_art » Sun Feb 01, 2015 2:24 pm

I just ordered some. I will try it on one of my own boats, not a customer boat. Interested in it because of the low-odor, less toxic features. If anyone has experience I am interested in hearing too!
Jamestown has a good reputation and its hard to believe they would risk it on an inferior product.
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Post by boat_art » Sun Feb 01, 2015 2:27 pm

Denis... If Smith stands by their products, it makes no sense that they would pull them from Jamestown just because they have competition.
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Re: CPES/Total Boat

Post by tuobanur » Sun Feb 01, 2015 2:42 pm

Who else carries CPES?
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Re: CPES/Total Boat

Post by drrot » Mon Feb 02, 2015 8:35 am

tuobanur wrote:Who else carries CPES?
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Re: CPES/Total Boat

Post by Theurkauf » Tue Feb 03, 2015 4:03 pm

I've recently used Total Boat on a sail boat I'm currently restoring,. It is much thicker than CPES and needs to be thinned at least 2 fold with lacquer thinner or something similar. That's not a big deal, but It takes MUCH longer to dry, at least in my very cool shop. Under conditions where Cold Formula CPES cures overnight (I'd estimate 45-50oF), Total Boat took 3-4 days. Once it did cure, the surface appeared very similar to CPES, and penetration also looked good. My suspicion is that it will perform like CPES, but without a track record there is no way to know for sure. Sticking with CPES is probably the safest way to go.

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Re: CPES/Total Boat

Post by boat_art » Tue Feb 03, 2015 5:36 pm

I got mine and tried it on an old skiff. Same experience as you Theurkauf. It seems, rather than CPES with VOC's, you simply have to add your own VOC's. No gain there because I bought it thinking I could avoid them.
I will stick to CPES, thanks anyway.
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Re: CPES/Total Boat

Post by tuobanur » Wed Feb 04, 2015 9:31 am

Thanks guys, I'm sticking with the CPES also, been using it through out my build, no need to change up now.
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