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by island time
Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:39 pm
Forum: Fiberglass - Engines & Powertrain
Topic: Transmission teardown
Replies: 8
Views: 2703

Re: Transmission teardown

No problem, I will keep posting pictures of the progress. I spent all day cleaning and painting parts. I am going to take the CV joint that connects the transmission to the V-drive to a local driveshaft machine shop tomorrow to have new U-joints installed. I learned a long time ago that even though ...
by island time
Sat Jul 15, 2017 8:38 pm
Forum: Fiberglass - Engines & Powertrain
Topic: Transmission teardown
Replies: 8
Views: 2703

Transmission teardown

All I hear lately is crickets chirping, where is everybody? I thought i would try to wake somebody up so I'm posting some pictures of the transmission project. Yesterday I sandblasted the entire trans/V-drive to get ready for disassembly. Today I tore down the V-drive, Waiting for a reply on transmi...
by island time
Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:41 pm
Forum: Fiberglass - Hull Construction
Topic: UH-OH!
Replies: 14
Views: 4358

Re: UH-OH!

Thanks for the kind words Troy. This kind of topic is what I always loved about the buzz so it's only fair i share my newest experiences. The buzz needs new stuff and this is my contribution. I have a few new pictures depicting the progress with the fiberglass hull repairs that I will post soon, I o...
by island time
Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:28 pm
Forum: Fiberglass - Engines & Powertrain
Topic: Tach drive technical advise
Replies: 5
Views: 2044

Re: Tach drive technical advise

Electronic, tach drive and $58 delivered! Even comes with the vacuum advance capped off. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevy-Big-Small-Block-350-454-HEI-Distributor-65K-Coil-Red-Cap-w-Tach-Drive-/380805499177?hash=item58a9c6c929:g:aRYAAMXQlgtSvf4g&vxp=mtr Hi Jim, As you know after you posted this I order...
by island time
Sun Jul 09, 2017 5:29 pm
Forum: Fiberglass - Hull Construction
Topic: UH-OH!
Replies: 14
Views: 4358

Re: UH-OH!

Still at it! Got home about three this afternoon from a 7 hour road trip and didn't even unpack, changed clothes and headed for the boat. I got the glass down in the bilge and up and over the engine beds. What's not seen in these pictures is the 6"wide tabbing along the engine beds where they meet t...
by island time
Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:30 pm
Forum: Fiberglass - Hull Construction
Topic: UH-OH!
Replies: 14
Views: 4358

Re: UH-OH!

Friday update.
Engine beds are glued in, several pieces of plywood cut and seal coated, nothing worthy of pictures yet.
Next step is glass cloth throughout the bilge tying everything together.
This will have to wait till next week-family stuff sometimes gets in the way of progress.

Craig
by island time
Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:33 pm
Forum: Fiberglass - Hull Construction
Topic: UH-OH!
Replies: 14
Views: 4358

Re: UH-OH!

Just thought I'd post a picture showing progress. Everything is cleaned out, old tabbing and other stuff ground out-what a mess that was! New engine beds are seal coated with resin awaiting the move to their new home.
by island time
Sat Jul 01, 2017 8:16 am
Forum: Fiberglass - Cockpit and Cabin Interiors
Topic: Arm Rests for seats
Replies: 0
Views: 1578

Arm Rests for seats

Ok next question for the Commander folks. I have the star trek seats in the Commander and I'm in the process of getting them recovered but before I do I would like to add arm rests to them, fixed on the outsides and swing up on the inside. Now I'm pretty sure I can figure out how to attach the fixed...
by island time
Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:59 pm
Forum: Fiberglass - Hull Construction
Topic: UH-OH!
Replies: 14
Views: 4358

Re: UH-OH!

Ok I have an update.
1 engine bed done, second one in the works.
The laminated quarter sawn white oak is a tad heavier than the old fir!
by island time
Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:00 pm
Forum: Fiberglass - Hull Construction
Topic: UH-OH!
Replies: 14
Views: 4358

Re: UH-OH!

Yup, the design is all about the intended use. The Corsair, Lancer and small Commanders were all built to take way more abuse than the passengers. Overbuilt to withstand the rigors of ocean racing. When you launch a #4500 boat off the top of a crest and there is nothing but 6 feet of air between you...
by island time
Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:41 pm
Forum: Fiberglass - Hull Construction
Topic: UH-OH!
Replies: 14
Views: 4358

Re: UH-OH!

Thanks John, I remember the first time I wetted out glass cloth. I too had that rookie fear but it went well and I came to realize that it's not rocket science and as long as you play by the resin god's rules it gives a great feeling of accomplishment. I'm going to stop by the sawmill tomorrow to or...
by island time
Mon Jun 26, 2017 6:47 pm
Forum: Fiberglass - Hull Construction
Topic: UH-OH!
Replies: 14
Views: 4358

UH-OH!

000_0010.JPG Update on the Commander project, The bottom up to the waterline has been block sanded, epoxy primed and block sanded again, she is ready for paint...I am still having difficulty trying to match the original blue/gray. This project may be on the back burner for a while. Over the weekend...
by island time
Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:39 am
Forum: Fiberglass - Hull Construction
Topic: Older fiberglass hull construction, better or not?
Replies: 29
Views: 29992

Re: Older fiberglass hull construction, better or not?

Really nice looking Lancer! What year? What engine?

Tide Song is fabulous, I'm a sucker for a wooden boat!
by island time
Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:32 pm
Forum: Fiberglass - Hull Construction
Topic: Older fiberglass hull construction, better or not?
Replies: 29
Views: 29992

Re: Older fiberglass hull construction, better or not?

That's great to hear, there is a lot of good information going around but what I needed was a reply like yours, "used the same product in the same way with good results" and the icing on the cake was that your paint is now several years old and still looks good and was user friendly. I just needed t...
by island time
Sat Jun 17, 2017 6:03 am
Forum: Fiberglass - Hull Construction
Topic: Older fiberglass hull construction, better or not?
Replies: 29
Views: 29992

Re: Older fiberglass hull construction, better or not?

Yup, that's the plan. The sanding is prep for epoxy primer and actually I'm going to be using Epifanes two part polyurethane. I did quite a bit of research and Epifanes was the only company that said it was OK to use their product below the water line albeit not for long periods of time which will w...
by island time
Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:16 pm
Forum: Fiberglass - Hull Construction
Topic: New shaft tube
Replies: 3
Views: 1628

Re: New shaft tube

Ok, so I went with Max-Gain, just received my material today. I decided to use 2" O.D. with 1/4" wall netting an I.D. of 1-1/2", this should give enough room for the 1-1/4" shaft. If not I also got a piece of 2" O.D. 1/8"wall which would give more clearance for the shaft but this is also the stub pi...
by island time
Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:52 pm
Forum: Fiberglass - Hull Construction
Topic: Older fiberglass hull construction, better or not?
Replies: 29
Views: 29992

Re: Older fiberglass hull construction, better or not?

I just read this thread from cover to cover and thought I would wake it up for new reading. As you know I'm restoring a 1968 23' Commander and wanted to add my recent experiences with regard to this subject. Most definitely ChrisCraft erred on the side of safety with regard to hull thickness, the hu...
by island time
Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:44 pm
Forum: Fiberglass - Odds & Ends
Topic: Waterproof Paint?
Replies: 6
Views: 2535

Re: Waterproof Paint?

I did consider a barrier coat but by design this is a thick heavy product much like anti-fouling paints themselves and that would not produce the glass smooth surface I need. It was not recommended for my project due to the fact that I am attempting to reproduce the ultra smooth look of gel coat. Th...
by island time
Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:22 pm
Forum: Fiberglass - Hardware & Rigging
Topic: Lifting rings for 23 Lancer/Commander
Replies: 8
Views: 3184

Re: Lifting rings for 23 Lancer/Commander

Thanks Greg, I appreciate your input into this idea. I guess if they were not a regular thing i probably would not try to install them, I don't need them except for working under the boat or if I wanted to take the boat off the trailer. I know I could design brackets that would work but I really wan...
by island time
Tue Jun 13, 2017 8:20 pm
Forum: Engines & Powertrain
Topic: fuel filter
Replies: 8
Views: 2637

Re: fuel filter

Hi John, It's totally your call on anything you install on your boat, having said that I need to stress the advantages of having some safety items on board. There may be arguments here from others but I personally would not leave the dock without a fuel filter. I personally experienced getting a loa...
by island time
Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:17 am
Forum: Fiberglass - Odds & Ends
Topic: Waterproof Paint?
Replies: 6
Views: 2535

Re: Waterproof Paint?

Hi Greg, Thanks for your reply, sorry I didn't respond before now. I believe you are right about manufacturers not wanting to over-rate the capability of their products. The last time I painted the bottom of the SeaSkiff I used plain old oil based porch and deck enamel and it's holding up beautifull...
by island time
Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:10 am
Forum: Engines & Powertrain
Topic: 2 1/2" copper exhaust
Replies: 32
Views: 18308

Re: 2 1/2" copper exhaust

Sorry I didn't reply before now. Your post went on the next page and I didn't see it.
The 3" pipe is indeed 3" O.D. With plumbing pipe the O.D. is constant and the I.D. changes with wall thickness.

Craig Wilson
by island time
Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:08 pm
Forum: Finishing
Topic: Painting the bilge
Replies: 4
Views: 1763

Re: Painting the bilge

Many thanks, I will do more research before I make the decision. I just wanted to know what others thought if faced with the option. The glass is all in good shape, just polluted with oil and such. Extreme cleaning is in order no matter what. If I have to sand before I put on a coat of resin I could...
by island time
Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:57 am
Forum: Finishing
Topic: Painting the bilge
Replies: 4
Views: 1763

Painting the bilge

Ok I know this isn't in the correct place but there isn't a correct place in the fiberglass area. I'm ready to pull the engine out of the Commander and do the shaft tube repair followed by extreme cleaning and painting. Here is my question for y'all. Should I use paint or gel coat to finish the bilg...
by island time
Sun Jun 11, 2017 6:53 pm
Forum: Research Related
Topic: Paragon Transmission info source
Replies: 2
Views: 1928

Re: Paragon Transmission info source

Thanks John, I will poke around online to see if I can gain some insight.

Craig Wilson
by island time
Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:56 am
Forum: Research Related
Topic: Paragon Transmission info source
Replies: 2
Views: 1928

Paragon Transmission info source

Hi all. A while back I reached out to two sources of Paragon information, Marine Gears and Great Lakes Power looking for information about my P-31 transmission in the 23 Commander. I found these links posted at the Commander Forum and sent emails to both. One did not reply, the other did but were ve...
by island time
Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:13 pm
Forum: Fiberglass - Engines & Powertrain
Topic: Replacing Exhaust Manifolds - 350FLV Thru Hull XK19
Replies: 5
Views: 3828

Re: Replacing Exhaust Manifolds - 350FLV Thru Hull XK19

Just thought I would kick this to the top to remind anyone that might need that I still have all this stuff and would like to see it out of my garage.

Craig Wilson
by island time
Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:10 am
Forum: Fiberglass - Engines & Powertrain
Topic: Tach drive technical advise
Replies: 5
Views: 2044

Tach drive technical advise

Hi Guys, In an effort to keep new activity in the Buzz I will ask a question I was saving for later. I have been working on a 1968 23' Commander, originally it had the 327F but at some point in history the engine was changed to an 80s vintage 350. Along with the old engine the original Prestolite di...
by island time
Sun Jun 04, 2017 9:24 pm
Forum: Engines & Powertrain
Topic: 2 1/2" copper exhaust
Replies: 32
Views: 18308

Re: 2 1/2" copper exhaust

My pipe is coming from V.P. Supply in Rochester, NY. It's regular plumbing pipe available at any plumbing supply store. 2-1/2" schedule"M" has a wall thickness of .065, 3" is .072. There is no 2-1/2" schedule DWV but 3" is .045. 2-1/2" M is $11.14/ft and 3" M is $14.82/ft. I did not price 3" DWV but...
by island time
Sun Jun 04, 2017 12:48 pm
Forum: Engines & Powertrain
Topic: 2 1/2" copper exhaust
Replies: 32
Views: 18308

Re: 2 1/2" copper exhaust

Good Point Jim, I will check and report back.
Sorry for my ignorance but you asked where it came from? like what mill? domestic or imported? Just want to clarify.
Just for my information what wall thickness was the material used back in the day?

Craig Wilson