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by Don Vogt
Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:52 am
Forum: Odds & Ends
Topic: starboard engine bay tray 41' 17 deluxe
Replies: 12
Views: 3102

Re: starboard engine bay tray 41' 17 deluxe

I believe they had them then and i can get you the dimensions of my '38, which are the originals. However, i think if you search the archives you can find factory drawings for them? dont think anyone is making them commercially but they are simple in construction as the drawing shows, iirc. there a ...
by Don Vogt
Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:45 pm
Forum: Hardware & Rigging
Topic: Self bailer vent hole
Replies: 5
Views: 172

Re: Self bailer vent hole

self bailers can be dangerous. I had mine reinstalled for the look ( I tried to include a photo but the system still isnt working to upload pictures). it was made inoperable. Too many horror stories of boats sinking via the bailer. looked it over this morning but couldnt find the hole. perhaps it wa...
by Don Vogt
Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:21 am
Forum: Hardware & Rigging
Topic: SCREWS
Replies: 3
Views: 174

Re: SCREWS

if i recall correctly, cc switched over from slotted screws to the reed&prince brand of frearson screws sometime around 1940-41. your boat may have been built around that time. perhaps someone like mike green would know for sure. In any event, if you dont have any original deck hardware screws, the ...
by Don Vogt
Fri May 31, 2019 2:57 pm
Forum: Hull Construction
Topic: Fiberglass covered bottom
Replies: 3
Views: 168

Re: Fiberglass covered bottom

sounds like you may need a whole new bottom including all chines, frames, keel. etc. once the rot starts who knows where the spores are? often fiberglassing is a band aid that only promotes further rot. Should have it inspected by a seriously qualified restorer, alas.
by Don Vogt
Sun May 26, 2019 10:12 am
Forum: Odds & Ends
Topic: Maiden Voyage-ish of Lake Girl
Replies: 7
Views: 246

Re: Maiden Voyage-ish of Lake Girl

:D
by Don Vogt
Sat May 25, 2019 10:15 am
Forum: Electrical Systems
Topic: Looking for a Key Blank for my ‘36 Runabout
Replies: 6
Views: 237

Re: Looking for a Key Blank for my ‘36 Runabout

Is the lock a clum switch? I wrote a blog on all this several years ago here on research related. your best bet is probably old car shows as the clum was used in autos of the period, as well. al schinnerer of calif. classic boats makes clum switch reproductions and maybe his key blanks might work? i...
by Don Vogt
Sat May 25, 2019 8:18 am
Forum: Odds & Ends
Topic: Maiden Voyage-ish of Lake Girl
Replies: 7
Views: 246

Re: Maiden Voyage-ish of Lake Girl

very cool. Lots of enjoyment ahead but from time to time there will be hiccups, too. Yes, getting it started for the first time of the season can be a challenge. after that i do the following that always works. Choke out, no throttle until it fires. then push in choke and give it a bit of gas and it...
by Don Vogt
Mon May 20, 2019 5:05 pm
Forum: Odds & Ends
Topic: Newbie Looking for Chris Craft Services in Northern Wisconsin
Replies: 18
Views: 3369

Re: Newbie Looking for Chris Craft Services in Northern Wisconsin

thanks much for the photos. please keep them coming. great looking boat! the 2020 acbs international is in coeur d' alene. Why not plan to attend. we have one '36 19' here but they are pretty uncommon out this way.
by Don Vogt
Sat May 18, 2019 10:06 am
Forum: Odds & Ends
Topic: Original paint colours for 1955 Capitan
Replies: 6
Views: 395

Re: Original paint colours for 1955 Capitan

yes, congratulations on a wonderful acquisition. how about posting some pictures? best wishes.
by Don Vogt
Sat May 18, 2019 10:04 am
Forum: Hardware & Rigging
Topic: Casting number for 1930 model 100 strut
Replies: 15
Views: 540

Re: Casting number for 1930 model 100 strut

Can someone help direct him to the casting company in algonac that cc used that still has a number of the old molds? I believe there was an earlier article on it in the brass bell?
by Don Vogt
Sun Mar 31, 2019 9:18 am
Forum: Research Related
Topic: Another boat that needs ID help!!
Replies: 6
Views: 402

Re: Another boat that needs ID help!!

Your best chance for capturing some of your labor and other expenses of restoration when it comes time to sell the boat, is when you start with a production boat rather than a home made one.
by Don Vogt
Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:05 am
Forum: Odds & Ends
Topic: Best Chris Craft- Barrel back or racing runabout?
Replies: 6
Views: 414

Re: Best Chris Craft- Barrel back or racing runabout?

John, i will send you a private message. a bottom up concours level restoration by a top restorer could easily get into 6 figures. It would be unusual if you could ever recover restoration costs in a subsequent sale. Barrel backs are higher priced in the market than racing runabouts. my suggestion i...
by Don Vogt
Thu Mar 28, 2019 7:00 pm
Forum: Odds & Ends
Topic: Best Chris Craft- Barrel back or racing runabout?
Replies: 6
Views: 414

Re: Best Chris Craft- Barrel back or racing runabout?

Hi John, actually the plywood sheets are placed on the frames and then the planks are epoxied to the plywood. You can check the acbs and tahoe scorecards to see the actual point deductions if you are shooting for a concours level restoration. I had my decks done that way for exactly that reason and ...
by Don Vogt
Thu Mar 28, 2019 10:31 am
Forum: Odds & Ends
Topic: Best Chris Craft- Barrel back or racing runabout?
Replies: 6
Views: 414

Re: Best Chris Craft- Barrel back or racing runabout?

epoxy-ing will definitely avoid the inevitable opening of seams that would otherwise occur in hot dry weather in the summer. Those properly done that way have a thin sheet of plywood underneath the planking. For reasons that escape me, the barrelback has a devoted following and the prices have been ...
by Don Vogt
Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:49 am
Forum: How to Use Boat Buzz
Topic: Adding An Avatar, Posting Pictures!
Replies: 1
Views: 237

Re: Adding An Avatar, Posting Pictures!

craig, thanks for sending me the pictures of your boat. great looking. I tried posting using the woody boater display of the blogs. that didnt work. then i went directly to the club site and was able to supposedly get a picture uploaded onto the reply. however, when i submitted it, the picture did n...
by Don Vogt
Sat Mar 09, 2019 7:31 pm
Forum: Odds & Ends
Topic: New Owner 1963 17' Chris-Craft Ski Boat
Replies: 14
Views: 1294

Re: New Owner 1963 17' Chris-Craft Ski Boat

can you email a picture to me and let me work on it. i will send pm.
by Don Vogt
Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:35 am
Forum: Research Related
Topic: K, KFL, Runabout, Costum Runabout, Runabout deluxe..?
Replies: 17
Views: 765

Re: K, KFL, Runabout, Costum Runabout, Runabout deluxe..?

Unfortunately, that has been a problem here on and off for a while. i am not encountering it anymore, but when i did, i had to keep relogging in, and after several attempts, the attachments would show up. ?
by Don Vogt
Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:36 pm
Forum: Research Related
Topic: K, KFL, Runabout, Costum Runabout, Runabout deluxe..?
Replies: 17
Views: 765

Re: K, KFL, Runabout, Costum Runabout, Runabout deluxe..?

thanks, i am glad this has been helpful. You are asking questions that are getting outside of my limited expertise, so perhaps there are others who can be helpful here. Off the top of my head, i am not sure where exactly the engine number is but i think it was part of the casting. somewhere on the t...
by Don Vogt
Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:13 pm
Forum: Research Related
Topic: K, KFL, Runabout, Costum Runabout, Runabout deluxe..?
Replies: 17
Views: 765

Re: K, KFL, Runabout, Costum Runabout, Runabout deluxe..?

one more point of clarification. the boat serial number had 2 components, the model designation, and then the second part was the particular boat made in that series. for example. the D17 part designated the model ( in this case the 1956-58 17' runabout.)The second part, in your case the 1083, meant...
by Don Vogt
Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:30 pm
Forum: Research Related
Topic: K, KFL, Runabout, Costum Runabout, Runabout deluxe..?
Replies: 17
Views: 765

Re: K, KFL, Runabout, Costum Runabout, Runabout deluxe..?

right. you can also search the archive here in the club website to see what materials might be available that specifically relate to this particular model. the thought also occurs to me that I believe the motor number was on the hull card and stamped on the engine block when made. If that is the sam...
by Don Vogt
Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:46 pm
Forum: Research Related
Topic: K, KFL, Runabout, Costum Runabout, Runabout deluxe..?
Replies: 17
Views: 765

Re: K, KFL, Runabout, Costum Runabout, Runabout deluxe..?

this is an interesting story, Laurits. According to the conrad book (he formerly worked at the mariners' museum where the cc records are kept and has written a fairly definitive account of the various models), Hulls D-17-1001 to D-17-1094 were for the 1956 model year 17' "runabout." It was not chara...
by Don Vogt
Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:38 pm
Forum: Odds & Ends
Topic: New Owner 1963 17' Chris-Craft Ski Boat
Replies: 14
Views: 1294

Re: New Owner 1963 17' Chris-Craft Ski Boat

we'll get there!
by Don Vogt
Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:05 am
Forum: Odds & Ends
Topic: New Owner 1963 17' Chris-Craft Ski Boat
Replies: 14
Views: 1294

Re: New Owner 1963 17' Chris-Craft Ski Boat

sorry that didnt work. I am probably the last guy you would want to get computer advice from. But try the box at the bottom that says "attachments." at least for me that goes directly to my picture files. good luck!
by Don Vogt
Fri Feb 15, 2019 4:30 pm
Forum: Odds & Ends
Topic: New Owner 1963 17' Chris-Craft Ski Boat
Replies: 14
Views: 1294

Re: New Owner 1963 17' Chris-Craft Ski Boat

Great. when you hit reply and type a response, there is a bar above the space for typing. the 9th box over has a icon that looks like a mountain and the sun. click on that and then upload the picture. we would love to see what you have. in the late 50's and early 60's cc was a little slow in trying ...
by Don Vogt
Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:16 am
Forum: Odds & Ends
Topic: New Owner 1963 17' Chris-Craft Ski Boat
Replies: 14
Views: 1294

Re: New Owner 1963 17' Chris-Craft Ski Boat

welcome, cool boat. Just to expand on mike's comments a bit. Here is my understanding. boats with those serial numbers, according to the Conrad book, were the 1962 model year (not necessarily construction year) 16ft. ski boat. CC followed the auto custom. In this case for example, building the 62 mo...
by Don Vogt
Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:50 pm
Forum: Constellation Enthusiast Group
Topic: Connie Refresh
Replies: 154
Views: 39940

Re: Connie Refresh

great job!
by Don Vogt
Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:49 pm
Forum: Odds & Ends
Topic: So I Went to a Vintage European Car Swap Meet and Ended Up with This ...
Replies: 7
Views: 600

Re: So I Went to a Vintage European Car Swap Meet and Ended Up with This ...

thanks. that's what i call a well stocked office! I am sure steve will do a great job for you. something to look forward to for spring. As you might guess, i am partial to the mid 30's runabouts prior to the barrel- back treatment. more classic in the lines. maybe you can bring it out to coeur d' al...
by Don Vogt
Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:25 am
Forum: Odds & Ends
Topic: So I Went to a Vintage European Car Swap Meet and Ended Up with This ...
Replies: 7
Views: 600

Re: So I Went to a Vintage European Car Swap Meet and Ended Up with This ...

Great find. I assume this is planned for your '36 runabout? I think however, that this particular gauge with the cc facing was used after cc went to the individual gauge arrangement starting with the '40 custom. (someone can correct me if this is not completely the case.) With the gauges in a gauge ...
by Don Vogt
Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:58 pm
Forum: Constellation Enthusiast Group
Topic: Trying to acquire a 1957 46 foot constellation
Replies: 6
Views: 737

Re: Trying to acquire a 1957 46 foot constellation

I think it would be a wonderful thing to help preserve such a great classic. Obviously it is a large endeavor, and one needs to enter into a project like this with one's eyes wide open. I am glad there are those out there doing this so we have at least some of these neat cruisers still around. Also ...