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by JacobErdey
Wed Dec 26, 2018 11:54 am
Forum: Hull Construction
Topic: Bed decks and covering boards?
Replies: 12
Views: 1040

Re: Bed decks and covering boards?

Yes I agree that it is fortunate we are able to restore these boats given they weren't all glued together originally. I did do a 5200 bottom on mine and bedded the sides (all new wood on almost every piece because I was completely green when starting this project and didn't realize that I was about ...
by JacobErdey
Mon Dec 24, 2018 5:02 pm
Forum: Hull Construction
Topic: Bed decks and covering boards?
Replies: 12
Views: 1040

Bed decks and covering boards?

Haven't thought of it much up to this point, but I am about to start fitting the fore and aft decks and all covering boards (on my 1950 18' Utility) and was wondering if those just go on dry, or do those need to be bedded in 5200 just like everything else has been? Seems like something that could be...
by JacobErdey
Wed Dec 19, 2018 1:19 pm
Forum: Finishing
Topic: Cold weather varnishing
Replies: 7
Views: 687

Re: Cold weather varnishing

Well I have no problem warming the building to 50-55 degrees for a few hours to apply the varnish, but over night the ambient temps will be dropping into the 30's, so I was wondering if those lows would damage the varnish before it cures in some way?
by JacobErdey
Tue Dec 18, 2018 4:14 pm
Forum: Finishing
Topic: Cold weather varnishing
Replies: 7
Views: 687

Cold weather varnishing

As I approach the varnishing stage of my project, I am growing slightly concerned about the climate in which I will have for varnishing. I know Pettit says "Temps 50 degrees Fahrenheit and below will extend drying times considerably" which is obviously understandable, but just wanting to make sure t...
by JacobErdey
Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:23 pm
Forum: Finishing
Topic: Bottom paint dry time
Replies: 3
Views: 548

Re: Bottom paint dry time

Temp will be 50-65. Humidity 80-85%
by JacobErdey
Wed Nov 14, 2018 6:36 pm
Forum: Finishing
Topic: Bottom paint dry time
Replies: 3
Views: 548

Bottom paint dry time

I'm soon to be finishing the bottom of my boat with Pettit 1959 Hard Racing Copper Bronze. And I see the "to launch" curing times on the can (2-8 days) in regards to temperature and all. But I will be rolling it to put on stands or a dolly to work on all the brightwork, and was wondering how long I ...
by JacobErdey
Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:09 am
Forum: Finishing
Topic: Best caulk to use to fill chine trim gap?
Replies: 5
Views: 582

Re: Best caulk to use to fill chine trim gap?

Good point. I'll let the small gaps drain and dry. Anyone know about how much Pettit 1959 Copper Bronze I need to finish the bottom of an 18' Utility? One quart? Two Quarts? Not trying to be too up tight, but also don't need $70 quart-sized paper weights laying around the shed either :lol:
by JacobErdey
Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:27 pm
Forum: Finishing
Topic: Best caulk to use to fill chine trim gap?
Replies: 5
Views: 582

Best caulk to use to fill chine trim gap?

Alright, so i have everything from the water line down bedded in 5200. Good excess squeeze out between all bottom planks. But I stayed slightly conservative when bedding the chine trim, because at the bow the chine trim runs up into the stained/varnished area above the water line and I didn't want t...
by JacobErdey
Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:22 pm
Forum: Finishing
Topic: Z Spar or Epifanes Varnish?
Replies: 13
Views: 5273

Re: Z Spar or Epifanes Varnish?

Well, here's an old thread for me to revitalize and get the boating community heated about different opinions :lol: So, as I approach the varnishing stage of my project, I can't help but start imagining this beauty once she's all varnished up and ready for the water, but for the life of me I can't d...
by JacobErdey
Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:09 am
Forum: Hull Construction
Topic: installing new sideplanks
Replies: 15
Views: 2868

Re: installing new sideplanks

Alright, thanks for all the input. Another question I have now (as I have started the fitting process on the side planks), does anyone have any advice on any sort of seam filler or putty to use that will accept stain or blend in right? I think I've got the planks fit about as good as can be expected...
by JacobErdey
Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:28 pm
Forum: Hull Construction
Topic: installing new sideplanks
Replies: 15
Views: 2868

Re: installing new sideplanks

Alright I wont put anything between the seams; being in south Louisiana, I know the humidity will take a toll on this thing. "Wood absolutely has to move and will always expand and contract no matter what" and "fit planking according to moisture content" are nice ways to state a nightmare I've had f...
by JacobErdey
Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:19 pm
Forum: Hull Construction
Topic: installing new sideplanks
Replies: 15
Views: 2868

Re: installing new sideplanks

Alright, so I know I need to apply 5200 or a bedding compound to the vertical frames and horizontal battens to "bed" the side planks on, but what do I put between the actual seams of each plank? Obviously I will fit them as tight as possible to show no gap, but I feel like over time the seam will mo...
by JacobErdey
Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:18 pm
Forum: Finishing
Topic: Water based varnish, anyone?
Replies: 3
Views: 680

Water based varnish, anyone?

So, I'm approaching the staining and varnishing segment of this restoration project, and have some curiosities. This very well may be a stupid question, but I've heard a lot of great things about these new water based varnishes/spar urethane's, etc. So my question is two-fold. 1. Would any of these ...
by JacobErdey
Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:01 pm
Forum: Odds & Ends
Topic: 5gallon pail of 5200
Replies: 6
Views: 1729

Re: 5gallon pail of 5200

Great to know. I'll stick to the tubes. Thanks!
by JacobErdey
Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:33 pm
Forum: Odds & Ends
Topic: 5gallon pail of 5200
Replies: 6
Views: 1729

5gallon pail of 5200

So, I noticed that Jamestown Distributors offers a 5 gallon pail of 5200 for $680. Which, according to my volume calculations, 5gal=65tubes=5.5cases=$990ish, so the discount is quite significant. I know I'll be using at least that much when I do the 5200 bottom. And I know I'll have to keep a plasti...
by JacobErdey
Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:24 am
Forum: Hull Construction
Topic: Fitting Bottom Planks
Replies: 2
Views: 883

Re: Fitting Bottom Planks

Alrighty, that's exactly the direction I was looking for. Thanks as always, sir.
by JacobErdey
Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:22 pm
Forum: Hull Construction
Topic: Fitting Bottom Planks
Replies: 2
Views: 883

Fitting Bottom Planks

Alright, I'm not going to lie...I've been pretty intimidated by this coming task for months now, and it's finally time to pounce. The original planks I pulled off the boat are pretty useless considering the deterioration/previous hog/random globs of fiberglass etc. so I was just looking for advice o...
by JacobErdey
Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:57 am
Forum: Hull Construction
Topic: 5200 Bottom. Space planks??
Replies: 44
Views: 8122

Re: 5200 Bottom. Space planks??

Thanks for the detailed visuals! It appears my first and most consequential mistake was failure to CPES planks before fitting. I left the wood too exposed to the elements and am paying for it now, but I think I can manage to iron out the kinks (literally :lol: ). I definitely know better for the nex...
by JacobErdey
Tue Mar 20, 2018 1:39 pm
Forum: Hull Construction
Topic: 5200 Bottom. Space planks??
Replies: 44
Views: 8122

Re: 5200 Bottom. Space planks??

No I did not. My thought process was: Dry fit, then set with 5200, fill seams, fair all imperfections, then CPES. Didn't think I should've CPES'd before installing because they still all had to be faired so I figured I'd have to CPES again and didn't want to double-work. In hindsight, it appears tha...
by JacobErdey
Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:48 am
Forum: Hull Construction
Topic: 5200 Bottom. Space planks??
Replies: 44
Views: 8122

Re: 5200 Bottom. Space planks??

Yes, I am spacing the inner angled planking as well. Started the first section with just small space, then noticed they were all swollen shut when I came back from the weekend. Then left about 1/16"-1/8" space the next section, and again came back from the weekend to find all gaps swollen shut and s...
by JacobErdey
Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:56 am
Forum: Hull Construction
Topic: 5200 Bottom. Space planks??
Replies: 44
Views: 8122

Re: 5200 Bottom. Space planks??

UPDATE: So, I've got about 70% of all the inner planking fit with 1/16 - 1/8" gap, then set with 5200 to all available surfaces (chines, keel, braces, spaces etc). Had a nasty rainy weekend with humidity over 90%. Went to check the boat this morning, all seems are swollen shut, and it looks like a r...
by JacobErdey
Fri Mar 16, 2018 9:23 am
Forum: Hull Construction
Topic: 5200 Bottom & CPES clarification
Replies: 9
Views: 1473

Re: 5200 Bottom & CPES clarification

Okay great, that clears everything up pretty well. And I'm glad I checked because I would've certainly wasted some hours heading headfirst into working backwards with 4-5 coats in the bilge :shock: Should I be alarmed, or take any measure to remove excess CPES buildup in areas that it has created a ...
by JacobErdey
Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:41 am
Forum: Hull Construction
Topic: 5200 Bottom & CPES clarification
Replies: 9
Views: 1473

5200 Bottom & CPES clarification

Before I make any major miscues, just want to clarify the appropriate steps. The best way I can try to summarize my question would be mentally visually :lol: So, if we were looking at the hull as a core sample, in layers, from the innermost surface of the boat to the last layer of paint on the botto...
by JacobErdey
Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:07 am
Forum: Hull Construction
Topic: 5200 Bottom. Space planks??
Replies: 44
Views: 8122

Re: 5200 Bottom. Space planks??

Poor Jacob probably does not know what to think now. Thanks Guys you put a smile on my face! :D Ya know, I reviewed all the mentioned methods, and after considerable deliberation I decided to consult my local traveling snake oil salesman...and surprisingly enough he recommended that I follow the Do...
by JacobErdey
Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:06 am
Forum: Hull Construction
Topic: 5200 Bottom. Space planks??
Replies: 44
Views: 8122

Re: 5200 Bottom. Space planks??

Okay great. Thanks for the input fellas. That puts a lot of my concerns to rest.
by JacobErdey
Mon Feb 26, 2018 12:19 pm
Forum: Hull Construction
Topic: 5200 Bottom. Space planks??
Replies: 44
Views: 8122

Re: 5200 Bottom. Space planks??

Space the planks. 5200 is strong but the wood will still move. Bottom would look like ruffels potato chips. Been there. Thanks. I assumed that would be the case. And what about the transom and side planks? Just leave about 1/16" gap and use mahogany colored 5200 in seams? or no 5200 in seams above ...
by JacobErdey
Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:44 am
Forum: Hull Construction
Topic: 5200 Bottom. Space planks??
Replies: 44
Views: 8122

5200 Bottom. Space planks??

Scenario: I'm restoring a 1950 Sportsman 18...in south Louisiana...so I have many concerns about possible temp/humidity issues. I'm doing the angled inner planking then the strakes as originally done. I plan to do a true 5200 bottom, and was wondering if i am supposed to leave a small space between ...
by JacobErdey
Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:26 pm
Forum: Hull Construction
Topic: White Oak Chines?
Replies: 9
Views: 1914

Re: White Oak Chines?

Thanks for the input. I guess I'll go with white oak if i can find some long enough. But feel much better about using the mahogany if i must. All this work I'm putting in...it has me worried sick that it's going to bust loose at the seams as soon as i hit a big wake haha.
by JacobErdey
Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:42 am
Forum: Hull Construction
Topic: White Oak Chines?
Replies: 9
Views: 1914

White Oak Chines?

So, the extent of this restoration on my 1950 Sportsman 18 carries me all the way into replacing most of the chines. And the existing chines are so rotten that I can't even determine if they were originally mahogany or white oak. Can anyone sprinkle a bit of knowledge on me here? Thanks a lot
by JacobErdey
Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:28 pm
Forum: Hardware & Rigging
Topic: Re-use bronze screws?
Replies: 4
Views: 980

Re-use bronze screws?

So, I am doing a full restoration of a 1950 Sportsman 18' (and when I say full, I mean even replacing majority of the transom framing and the chines). So there are thousands and thousands of bronze screws to be changed, and as you also know, they aren't cheap. So, I know they have to be structurally...