Active Active   Unanswered Unanswered

New Member - First Boat - ID Help?

If it doesn't pertain to metal, wood, wire or fabric—but it is about vintage Chris-Crafts, ask your question or give your advice here.

Moderators: Don Ayers, Al Benton, Don Vogt

User avatar
Jasmine45
Posts: 5
Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:14 am
Contact:

New Member - First Boat - ID Help?

Post by Jasmine45 » Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:42 am

Hi everyone,

I recently purchased what is though to be a 16' 1945 Rocket, however neither the previous owner nor I could find hull ID plates or stamps anywhere.

Curious if anyone can help me ID this boat? I've also submitted a request to the museum using the engine ID as it does have the original K engine.

Thanks in advance!

j


Image

User avatar
JohnKadimik
Posts: 454
Joined: Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:30 pm
Location: Lake Hopatcong, NJ
Contact:

Post by JohnKadimik » Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:29 am

J, The 16' Rocket was produced from 1946-49. To me it looks like a Rocket that someone decked over.

User avatar
JimF
Club Executive Team
Posts: 637
Joined: Mon Nov 14, 2005 10:48 am
Location: Austin, TX
Contact:

Post by JimF » Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:38 am

The only boat I could find similar is the 1934-1936 Deluxe runabout that did not come with a "K". I will go with John's theory.

User avatar
Mark Christensen
Posts: 639
Joined: Wed Jul 19, 2006 5:57 am
Location: Rockford, IL
Contact:

Post by Mark Christensen » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:51 am

yeah, this boat has definitely been modified. If you look under the engine hatches does the construction appear as if that is the case? Look for sawn off ribs and other things that look "suspicious." you should post more photos, especially from inside the engine hatches.
1961 24' Chris Craft Sportsman - CUA-24-0007C
1940's Homebuilt 14' Racing Hydroplane
Image

farupp
Posts: 832
Joined: Sat Oct 29, 2005 6:25 am
Location: Charleston, SC
Contact:

Post by farupp » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:56 am

Welcome to the Club.

The locations of the hull numbers are as follows:

Chris-Craft, Sea Skiff & Cavalier Division boats

• On a metal plate attached to the underside of the engine hatch cover or engine box on single engine models, and on a metal plate attached to the underside of the starboard engine hatch cover or engine box on twin engine models.
• Stamped into the aft surface of the forward header of the engine hatch on single engine models, and stamped into the aft surface of the forward header of the port engine hatch on twin engine models.
• Stamped into the top edge of the engine stringer starboard adjacent to engine coupling on single engine models, and stamped into the top edge of the inboard stringer, port engine, adjacent to engine coupling on twin engine models.
• Either on top of wood towing bitt, aft face of bow block, extreme forward inboard surface of port toe rail, or aft face of stem midway between chine and sheer.
Frank Rupp
1959 22-foot Sea Skiff Ranger
283 Flywheel Forward engine

User avatar
Don Vogt
Club Executive Team
Posts: 919
Joined: Mon Jan 01, 2007 4:51 pm
Location: seattle, wa

Post by Don Vogt » Thu Aug 23, 2012 12:46 pm

Welcome! We are confident you will have a great experience as a member.
1938 Chris Craft 17' Deluxe Runabout "Jennifer II"

User avatar
Jasmine45
Posts: 5
Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:14 am
Contact:

Post by Jasmine45 » Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:32 pm

Thanks everyone. Still no luck with hull numbers, and I know it's been 'restored' but I don't think the previous owner has the right year / model.

Pics from the sale listing:

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

User avatar
MikeM
Posts: 166
Joined: Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:24 pm
Location: Wilsonville, Oregon
Contact:

Post by MikeM » Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:32 am

I'd say John is right, too. CC doesn't put ceiling boards in the engine compartment. Yours has boards from its original configuration.

There must be numbers stamped somewhere. Have you removed the rear seat back? That model should have a number stamped in the frame that goes across. Also in some floor boards. Once you find one set of numbers several more usually pop up. Keep looking.
1929 Hacker Craft Dolphin, 24'
1940 Century Utility, 17'
1947 Chris Craft Special, 16'
1947 Chris Craft Sportsman, 22'
1949 Chris Craft Racing Runabout, 19'
1952 Penn Yan Cartopper, 12'
1954 Chris~Craft Racing Runabout, 19' (For Sale)
1971 Century Arabian, 19'
1973 Dan Arena Custom, 21'

farupp
Posts: 832
Joined: Sat Oct 29, 2005 6:25 am
Location: Charleston, SC
Contact:

Post by farupp » Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:38 am

The numbers will be stamped into the wood as Mike said. My hull number stamp looks like below so you have an idea what to look for. This is on the engine stringer.


Image
Frank Rupp
1959 22-foot Sea Skiff Ranger
283 Flywheel Forward engine

User avatar
Jasmine45
Posts: 5
Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:14 am
Contact:

Post by Jasmine45 » Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:35 pm

Thanks everyone - still no hull #, but was able to speak to an old owner and research a few part numbers with the Mariners museum. Confirmed it's a 1946 rocket that was decked over during a previous restore.

http://www.classicboat.com/id-16-Rocket-1946-1949.htm

farupp
Posts: 832
Joined: Sat Oct 29, 2005 6:25 am
Location: Charleston, SC
Contact:

Post by farupp » Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:42 pm

According to the link to Classic Boat you provided, the hull number is R-16-105. Look around for that number stamped in the wood. Once you find it you will be amazed how many more times you find it in other places. If the engine stringers were replaced when the original engine was removed you may not find that number in that location.

Good luck.
Frank Rupp
1959 22-foot Sea Skiff Ranger
283 Flywheel Forward engine

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest