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Long Winter on the Hard in New England

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Long Winter on the Hard in New England

Post by joanroy » Tue Mar 17, 2015 11:25 am

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Finally got the old truck dug out and checked on the boat for the first time since last October. Glad I did. With the hard freeze this year and now a thaw, all my jack stands loosened up quite a bit. Luckily she wasn't on her side yet. Good idea to check your winter shoring now and then.

Little quiz for you Chris Craft aficionados'. What's wrong in these pictures of a 1948 36 foot Double Stateroom Enclosed?????
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Re: Long Winter on the Hard in New England

Post by ClassOf56 » Tue Mar 17, 2015 11:27 am

Just guessing here...should it have a painted transom and brightwork above the hull?
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Re: Long Winter on the Hard in New England

Post by joanroy » Tue Mar 17, 2015 11:35 am

Your half right. The cabin sides should be varnished. The transom varnish is as original. Look again. There's more. The clue is enclosed.

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Re: Long Winter on the Hard in New England

Post by homeiste » Tue Mar 17, 2015 12:16 pm

Is that water vapor rising off a newly uncovered back deck due to temp/moisture variations of the air (poor ventilation), or a dirty camera lens?
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Re: Long Winter on the Hard in New England

Post by drrot » Tue Mar 17, 2015 12:32 pm

Looks like the keel split/sagged
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Re: Long Winter on the Hard in New England

Post by tuobanur » Tue Mar 17, 2015 12:50 pm

The TPO is missing the gold leaf
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Re: Long Winter on the Hard in New England

Post by joanroy » Tue Mar 17, 2015 1:37 pm

Dirty camera lens? CORRECT

Split and sagging keel? WRONG. (Optical illusion, I think?)

Gold leaf missing? CORRECT and WRONG (leaf could have had more swirl, look white from flash)

Good answers, but Sorry, no GRAND PRIZE winner. Try again.

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Re: Long Winter on the Hard in New England

Post by Doug P » Tue Mar 17, 2015 1:59 pm

It's stopped snowing?

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Re: Long Winter on the Hard in New England

Post by joanroy » Tue Mar 17, 2015 3:07 pm

Doug P, you are CORRECT! It has stopped snowing (Thank you weather Gods.....I couldn't take any more) , but not the answer we're looking for. Try your luck again!!!

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Re: Long Winter on the Hard in New England

Post by Captain Nemo » Tue Mar 17, 2015 3:44 pm

I can't find anything w/ the first pic. Looks like a nice gold leaf job and everything seems to be spelled correctly. The second pic looks real nice except I don't believe a flying bridge was an option.
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Re: Long Winter on the Hard in New England

Post by joanroy » Tue Mar 17, 2015 7:00 pm

CAP'N NEMO! CONGRATULATIONS! You are CORRECT! YOU WIN!
There's absolutely nothing wrong with transom pic one ( Pretty nice restoration, if I may say so myself).
Also absolutely correct on hull pic two. What the heck is a Fly Bridge doing stuck on the cabin top of a Double Stateroom "Enclosed Bridge" Cruiser?! Kinda have a love/hate relationship with the damn thing. Its made so well, when I first got the boat I thought it was original. Of course, after becoming a CCABC member, I soon discovered it was a non-original add on. Thought about removing it, but I have to say, it's pretty darn nice up there and having another helm station isn't too shabby either. Oh well, I'll live with it for now and tear it off when I get to old to climb up there. It's an oddity for sure. Double Stateroom Enclosed Bridge Cruiser Fly Bridge Added or 1948 36 DSEBFBA.

Any of you guys have any strange or unusual modifications that you either love, hate, or both?
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Re: Long Winter on the Hard in New England

Post by Captain Nemo » Tue Mar 17, 2015 7:12 pm

YAYYYY! What do I win? A kick in the ass with a dull ice skate? :D
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Re: Long Winter on the Hard in New England

Post by joanroy » Tue Mar 17, 2015 7:46 pm

AHHH Oh ya the Grand Prize! Actually Cap'n Nemo, NO, not the skates. I had to let them go because I was always on thin Ice.
THE GRAND PRIZE is....... If you ever haul out in Westport Harbor, I'll help you paint your boat bottom and serve you a refreshing beverage aboard the Majestic, though somewhat unoriginal, Joan Roy. CONGRATULATIONS once again.

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Re: Long Winter on the Hard in New England

Post by jfrprops » Tue Mar 17, 2015 9:38 pm

Wow! I would have been right with Jim on the keel.....heck of an optical illusion?

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Re: Long Winter on the Hard in New England

Post by joanroy » Wed Mar 18, 2015 4:18 am

Jim and John, Thank you for your participation. An impartial panel of judges will check Joan Roy's keel with a specially calibrated Keel Sag-O-Meter and if found to be beyond acceptable ancient boat tolerances, you will both be awarded second NOT SO GRAND PRIZE. Luckily I found the ice skates.

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Re: Long Winter on the Hard in New England

Post by jfrprops » Wed Mar 18, 2015 7:28 am

Ha! the keel o meter is what we need....it is for actual illusions.....optical illusions are another matter.....lest my eyes fail me....I can see right through that gap in the keel to the stuff behind it in the shop??????

Down south here we are right up to date on the keel-0-meter.....so we know that keel APPEARS to have sagged a couple of KEELOMETERS.....that's metric stuff you know....

Bring that baby to Dora and we can all check her out.....nice boat....

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Re: Long Winter on the Hard in New England

Post by Captain Nemo » Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:21 am

joanroy wrote:AHHH Oh ya the Grand Prize! Actually Cap'n Nemo, NO, not the skates. I had to let them go because I was always on thin Ice.
THE GRAND PRIZE is....... If you ever haul out in Westport Harbor, I'll help you paint your boat bottom and serve you a refreshing beverage aboard the Majestic, though somewhat unoriginal, Joan Roy. CONGRATULATIONS once again.
Thanks for the offer, I'll bring the brushes.
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Re: Long Winter on the Hard in New England

Post by joanroy » Wed Mar 18, 2015 12:09 pm

Possible keel problem still under review...............
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Re: Long Winter on the Hard in New England

Post by Captain Nemo » Wed Mar 18, 2015 2:19 pm

Your keel looks pretty good to me, just some minor checking going on there. I see no major keelamity in your future. :)
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Re: Long Winter on the Hard in New England

Post by jfrprops » Wed Mar 18, 2015 4:14 pm

Keel looks fine in those shots! Rock on.....nice job

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Re: Long Winter on the Hard in New England

Post by tkhersom » Wed Mar 18, 2015 5:54 pm

I also saw what Jim and John saw. I think it was actually the prop shaft. 8)

It's not to late to get tickets to Dora. I don't expect to see a 1948 36 DSEBFBA there, but there will be 15 Cobra's! :wink:
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Re: Long Winter on the Hard in New England

Post by jfrprops » Wed Mar 18, 2015 8:33 pm

YES! It surely is the prop shaft when you blow up the pic. You can see the shaft zincs clearly......but IMHO the one in front of the strut and cutlass bearing is too close....this is always a tough decision...where to place it???
If you put it at a distance in front of the cutlass bearing that is less than the distance from the trailing edge of the prop to the rudder you may think you have protected yourself from a shaft runout at the gearbox getting the prop into the rudder...BUT....you may be cutting down the water flow thru/past/ around the cutlass bearing...
Sort of a picky point...but worth considering in any out of the water running gear work.

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Re: Long Winter on the Hard in New England

Post by joanroy » Thu Mar 19, 2015 5:10 am

Guys, thanks for taking another look at my keel. Your wisdom and opinions are highly regarded. Anybody wanna buy a used Keel-O- Meter?

Troy, can't make it to Cobra Dora this year. 94 year old father, WW 2 Woody PT Boat Vet, needs a little help around the house. I will get up to the Great State of Maine at some point this summer for a lobstahhh. I'll give you a call.

John, I change my shaft zincs every year and I'm never sure exactly where to put them. I put two on each shaft about six inches in from the struts. What do you recommend for placement? Thanks for bringing the water flow issue to my attention. Replacing cutless bearings is Not fun.

Cap'n Nemo, CONGRATULATIONS once again! You may claim your GRAND PRIZE at your convenience.

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Re: Long Winter on the Hard in New England

Post by Captain Nemo » Thu Mar 19, 2015 5:27 am

Thank you, and thank your father for his service.
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Re: Long Winter on the Hard in New England

Post by tkhersom » Thu Mar 19, 2015 5:50 am

joanroy wrote:Troy, can't make it to Cobra Dora this year. 94 year old father, WW 2 Woody PT Boat Vet, needs a little help around the house. I will get up to the Great State of Maine at some point this summer for a lobstahhh. I'll give you a call.
Hope your Dad is doing well. I assume you saw this article. http://www.woodyboater.com/blog/2015/03 ... ation-wow/

I look forward to your visit. :D
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